Info-Mac 4/Info_Mac IV CD-ROM (Pacific HiTech Inc.)(August 1994).iso/Periodicals/InfoMac Digest volume 12/infomacv12-016.txt

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Date: Fri, 28 Jan 94 00:56:03 PST
From: The Info-Mac Moderators <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V12 #16
To: info-mac-list


Info-Mac Digest             Fri, 28 Jan 94       Volume 12 : Issue 16

Today's Topics:

      [!] Info-Mac 3 CD-ROM Release
      [*] Alt.sources.mac Digest #02-94
      [*] AutoBoot 1.3
      [*] Basic Black 1.3
      [*] Brainwave v1.00
      [*] cc_converter11.hqx submission
      [*] ColourBlock CDEF
      [*] Convert!-20.hqx
      [*] Cron 1.0d13, execute commands at specified times
      [*] DIMPLES Ragtime MOD song
      [*] Excalibur 1.5 (Spelling Checker)
      [*] figgles utilities mac version
      [*] File Buddy 2.0.4 Submission
      [*] GrafSys 2.0 Submission
      [*] Here's the 1.05 system update for Newton
      [*] NET_Mac2.3.35.sea.hqx.text
      [*] NewtTurt-11.sit.hqx
      [*] Quiet Start 1.1
      [*] The Stack O' Love
      'Informed' Anyone?
      (Q) Help with Mac TCP/IP
      *Think Before You Zap!*
      128 Mac
      128 Mac - Did you buy one?(R)
      Accessing audio CD
      All modems are not created equal
      Apple Multi-media CD-ROM Offer
      Archiving Eudora mailboxes
      Big files from UNIX to Mac
      BinHex CRC error? (Q)
      CD 300 external - CD Bundle ripoff? (Q)
      Cross Stitch Program (A)
      cscw-groupware
      DeskPict replacement (Q)
      Finder's Find command
      High Speed Modems (Q)
      How do I fetch from home?
      Hubble deep sky image gif's
      hubble wide field planetary camera gif's
      Hypercard->Toolbook (A)
      Hyperdisaster
      INIT icon running off screen
      internet fax service (C)
      Keeping time on Quadra 610
      LaserWriter Select 360 on serial
      Looking for Mac STEAM TABLES
      Mac286 & HDFD - Help? (R)
      macron problem>Japanese
      Mashed icon a la Novell?
      medical software (A)
      Memory problems on a PowerBook Duo 230 -- Help Help!
      MIDI Format
      more BeHierarchic question
      Nutritional Software ?
      Other mirrors for Sumex?
      Ouchie (AOCE) ain't all bad?
      PackIt III v1.3
      Patch editor/librarian for
      Patch for Incredible Machine
      Personnel Management software (Q)
      PowerPC 94 obsolete?
      requesting the MACS application
      Search an shell for the mac
      Shut Down Programs (Q)
      SUBSCRIBE
      systems crashes on PB165c (help!)
      TCP/IP<->Appletalk Routing (Q)
      TCP/IP on an LC (2 msgs)
      TIFF, PICT, EPS
      Time travel
      Type and creator archives
      Wanted: a single A3 ribbon for a QMS ColorScript 100 30i printer
      What will the power-pc do to the laptop market
      Wrapping an image
      Zapping PRAM

The Info-Mac newsgroup is moderated by Bill Lipa, Gordon Watts and Liam Breck.

The Info-Mac archives are available (by using FTP, account anonymous,
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Date: 27 Jan 94 14:57:38 EST
From: Cliff Miller <[e-mail]>
Subject: [!] Info-Mac 3 CD-ROM Release

Fans of the Info-Mac Archive!

The latest version of the Info-Mac CD-ROM is now available.  We just got the
first batch back from the factory about an hour ago, and should be getting a
larger shipment in a few days.

I'm going to upload the interface to Sumex-Aim so that you can see what's on
the CD.  (It's a pretty hefty file -- sorry, but we work with CD-ROMs so we
don't think a lot about space....)

Regards,

Cliff


=====

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- Download Date: mid-December 1993 (most files uploaded June 93 - Dec 93)
- Interface with short descriptions of all files
- Indexed with Free Text, Easy View, and On Location

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We offer a $20 discount to registered owners of the Info-Mac 2 CD-ROM.
Authors of programs on the CD are entitled to a free copy. (We appreciate it
if authors pay the  Shipping & Handling charge, but it's not a requirement.)

Payment by VISA/MC/AmEx, money order, int'l money order, or US check is fine.

ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS:

We would like to thank the many people who have made this CD-ROM possible.
In addition to the collective thanks we must give all of the authors and
submittors of programs, reports, and other files to the archive, for this
issue we'd like to give special thanks to the following people:

 Bill Lipa:      Moderator of Info-Mac*
 Gordon Watts:   Moderator of Info-Mac*
 Liam Breck:     Moderator of Info-Mac*
 Mark Zimmerman: Author of Free Text
 Akif Eyler:     Author of Easy View
 Adam Engst:     Editor of Tidbits
 Murph Seawall:  Editor of Vaporware
 Ken Seah:       Author of Edit II

*We have received generous advice and support directly and indirectly from the
administrators of Info-Mac at sumex-aim. They are not, however, directly
involved in the production of this CD-ROM, and neither sumex-aim nor Stanford
University is responsible for any liability or damages incurred through the
use or distribution of this disk.


CONTACT INFO:

You're welcome to send us email, but calling might be easier especially during
the next week or so.

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      1-801-278-2042
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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 19:47:35 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Dave Nebinger)
Subject: [*] Alt.sources.mac Digest #02-94

alt.sources.mac digest #2-94                      1/26/94

  Welcome to the alt.sources.mac digest.  Currently, I am
the moderator of the archive.  I thought I would post this
message to show everyone what has been accumulating at the
archive site.

  Your contributions are highly recommended and accepted.
If you don't have access to the alt.sources.mac newsgroup,
you can email your contribution to me ([e-mail])
and I will add it to the archive, or you can upload it to
the /ftp/pub/incoming directory at the archive site.

  I would also recommend to those programmers posting
snippets to the comp.sys.mac.* heirarchy to also crosspost
them to the alt.sources.mac group so that I can make sure
that it gets added to the archive.

  A new addition to the digest is the Who's Who list found at
the end of the digest.  It contains the list of contributors for
the digest.  It will give you, at a glance, an idea about who
is supporting the alt.sources.mac group.

[Archived as /info-mac/dev/info/alt-sources-mac-digest-94-02.txt; 20K]

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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 12:11:30 -0600
From: [e-mail] (Karl Pottie)
Subject: [*] AutoBoot 1.3

AutoBoot version 1.3 (c) 1992-94 by Karl Pottie

         What is AutoBoot ?

AutoBoot is a Control Panel/System extension which will reboot
(restart) you Macintosh after a System Error or a Freeze-Up has
occurred. This comes in handy when your Macintosh must be 'on-line' at
all times, even when it is left unattended for long periods of time.

Karl Pottie
[e-mail]

[Archived as /info-mac/cfg/auto-boot-13.hqx; 138K]

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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 94 15:00:01 EST
From: Mason Bliss <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] Basic Black 1.3

Here's the latest version of Basic Black. It has some nifty new features,
like support for After Dark's gestalt selector and a nicer clock, while
remaining incredibly efficient. If you're using any version of Basic Black
prior to this one, then switch up to this - it's a lot nicer.

If you're not familiar with it, Basic Black is a tiny, free screen saver
that'll run on any Mac, new to old, without loading down the system at
all. It'll run under any system, from seven back. You have the option of
having a small clock bounce around your main screen, but many people prefer
having the screen remain plain ol' black.

Enjoy it!

Note: This package is distributed under the enclosed Artistic License. Source
code is enclosed.

[Archived as /info-mac/gui/basic-black-13.hqx; 57K]

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Date: Tue, 25 Jan 1994 22:08:39 CST
From: Tom Gooding <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] Brainwave v1.00

Brainwave v1.0 by Tom Gooding ([e-mail])

Brainwave is Bolo cyborg that improves your Bolo abilities.  Here's a list of
its features.
- Auto-Mapping
- Radar
- Auto Object Alignment
- Stagger Mines
- Clear Mines
- Automatic and manual road, bridge, and boat building
- Automatic tree gathering
- Can restrict speed when Builder is outside of tank
- Can display time till new builder lands.
- Can transmit location to allies (upon request)
- Can transmit current Brainwave version to all players
- and More!!!

*** This version may not work on a Quadra 840av ***

[Archived as /info-mac/game/bolo/brainwave-10.hqx; 38K]

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Date: Thu, 27 Jan 1994 11:29:27 +1030 (CST)
From: [e-mail] (Kevin Sanderson)
Subject: [*] cc_converter11.hqx submission

CC converter is a utility that converts information downloaded from the
online CAUL Current Contents database in Australia into Refer/BibIX format
so it can be imported by bibliographic programs such as EndNote and
ProCite.

Changes in 1.1
Support for System 7 features such as drag and drop.
Support for NCSA Telnet capture files.
More user control over conversion and case changing.
Better handling of source fields that are > 1 line.
Better handling of source fields for references in supplemental issues.

Kevin Sanderson
Department of Crop Protection     email: [e-mail]
University of Adelaide            phone: [phone]

[Archived as /info-mac/app/cc-converter-11.hqx; 95K]

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Date: Thu, 27 Jan 94 13:25:58 GMT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: [*] ColourBlock CDEF

ColourBlock CDEF is a CDEF for obtaining and displaying a block
of colour from the user. To look at, it's a cross between the
Colour and Labels Control Panels.

Full THINK C 6.0 source and a compiled version are included in
this archive.

-dair

[Archived as /info-mac/dev/src/colour-block-cdef-c.hqx; 17K]

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Date: Mon, 10 Jan 94 12:22:31 NZD
From: [e-mail] (Clinton Logan)
Subject: [*] Convert!-20.hqx

Convert! for the Newton Messagepad v 2.0

Just as Newton is a replacement for your diary, Convert! is a replacement for
the conversion tables usually found at the front.

Convert! 2.0 allows the user to enter and quickly convert between 107 common
(and not so common) metric and imperial units. Once the value has been written
into a field Convert! automatically calculates the corresponding units in the
table. You can then simply overwrite any field with a new value and have the
whole table recalculate.

This new version includes:
* complete rewrite from the ground up, much more efficient use of memory
* user definable settings (US/UK volumes, result accuracy).
* supports "whole unzit conversions" ie 300.6 cm = 3.28 yards or 3 yards, 0 ft,
10.35ins
* 70 new conversions including Pressure,Energy,Time,Power,Velocity,Computing

[Archived as /info-mac/nwt/util/convert-20.hqx; 64K]

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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 94 20:55:47 +0000
From: [e-mail] (Joaquim Baptista [pxQuim])
Subject: [*] Cron 1.0d13, execute commands at specified times

I am not the author, but I am quite enthusiastic about this daemon.
No network server should be without it!  This is posted WITHOUT the
knowledge of the author.

The author is Chris Johnson <[e-mail]>.

The cron daemon executes commands at specified dates and times
according to the instructions in the crontab file. Several simple
programs are supplied, which enable you to:
- Mount or unmount AFS volumes
- Run disinfectant
- Update the Mac's clock
- Run uupc
- Shutdown or restart
- Play sounds
- Fade the screen
- Launch any application and make it open a file

In addition, you can write your own commands, interface code for C and
Pascal is included.

[Archived as /info-mac/cfg/cron-10d13.hqx; 130K]

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Date: Tue, 25 Jan 1994 19:19:10 -0600 (CST)
From: "Larry Rymal:T.E.M.U.G.-EAST_TEXAS-" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] DIMPLES Ragtime MOD song

    This is a wonderful player piano MOD.  It has possibly the best
piano sounds I have heard from any MOD or MID.  This is a definite
keeper!  Contributed by E.HALL3 on GEnie via the Amiga RT.
    Use SoundTreker or Player Pro to play.  Decode and decompress with
StuffIt Expander.

--Larry Rymal <[e-mail]>

[Archived as /info-mac/snd/dimples-ragtime-mod.hqx; 67K]

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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 94 12:08:36 EST
From: [e-mail] (Rick Zaccone)
Subject: [*] Excalibur 1.5 (Spelling Checker)

This is release 1.5 of Excalibur. 1/14/94

Excalibur is a Macintosh spelling checker for LaTeX documents. You can
optionally turn off LaTeX parsing, so Excalibur is a good plain text
spelling checker too.

Features include:

- Excalibur will offer suggestions for how to correct a word.

- Excalibur can spell check the clipboard. This makes it a good
spelling checker for any text based application such as Alpha, BBEdit,
or Eudora.

- You can teach it about new LaTeX commands and environments that
you define.

- Optionally spell checks text in the typewriter (\tt) font.

- You can create your own dictionaries.

- Works with Textures and OzTeX documents. It should work on any TEXT file.

- You will need System 6.0.4 or higher to run Excalibur.

- If you are running System 7 or greater, there is balloon help.

- Excalibur is free.

- British, Dutch, French, Germain, and Italian dictionaries are also
available.

Version 1.5 changes:

- Added options that let the user choose how Excalibur should behave
when you launch it.  You may choose to present an "open file" dialog,
open the clipboard if it has text, or do nothing.  When the clipboard
option is checked, Excalibur will also open the clipboard when it
receives a resume event (if it contains text).

- Adjusted a few of the dialogs so that they all appear and behave
consistently.  Hitting Return or Enter is the same as clicking the
default button.  Command period is the same as cancel.

- Made some changes so that Excalibur's interactions with Alpha are
smoother.

- Fixed the Edit Commands dialog so that it is a bit more intuitive.

- Fixed the Edit Environments dialog so that you no longer enter the
number of arguments.  Excalibur never used these values anyway.

- You can now drag Excalibur's windows to another monitor.

- Fixed a few minor bugs.

Rick Zaccone
[e-mail]

[Archived as /info-mac/text/excalibur-15.hqx; 391K]

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Date: Tue, 25 Jan 94 18:36:54 -0500
From: [e-mail]
Subject: [*] figgles utilities mac version

[Some random Newton programs from Erica Sadun.  --isl]

[Archived as /info-mac/nwt/util/figgles.hqx; 189K]

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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 11:35:59 +1100 (EST)
From: Ken Simpson <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] File Buddy 2.0.4 Submission

This is the lastest incremental update to File Buddy, Larry Harris' great
file management utility. Do yourself a favour and have a look.

I am not the author not in any way connected with the author.

[Archived as /info-mac/disk/file-buddy-204.hqx; 208K]

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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 18:50:51 --100
From: [e-mail] (Christian Steffen Ove Franz)
Subject: [*] GrafSys 2.0 Submission

What is 3D GrafSys 2.0

GrafSys is a hierarchical object-oriented class library for THINK Pascal. It is
designed to facilitate easy 3D graphics and animations in your programs.
GrafSys
supports full 3D control of graphical objects and electronic eye. Graphical
objects can be independently rotated (around arbitrary axes), translated and
scaled. Objects can inherit transformations (rotation, scaling and translation)
>From other objects. GrafSys supports dynamic (i.e. on-the-fly) and multiple
inheritance of transformations and an unlimited number of so-called operators
(matrices) per object.

The GrafSys provides objects for 3D points, lines and whole objects that can
contain up to 8000 lines in full RGB color and more than 250'000 points.
GrafSys
also supports ultra-fast polygon filling using the triangulation approach. With
it you can easily implement hidden-surface removal.

Designed for fast and simple to program animations, GrafSys supports an
AutoErase feature where the object automatically erases its previous image
before redrawing itself. For flicker-free animations GrafSys also provides easy
to use Off-Screen bit map handling.

GrafSys is a combination of procedures and a powerful, extensible class library
that can be easily curtailed to your specific needs. For example  the
general-purpose 3D object 'TSObject3D' understands over fifty messages for such
diverse things as building a point/line database, rotating and drawing itself.

The 2.0 version comes with full source code.

Christian Franz

[Archived as /info-mac/dev/src/graf-sys-p.hqx; 489K]

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Date: Tue, 25 Jan 1994 10:55:17 -0600 (CST)
From: "Albert Everett, UALR Academic Computing" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] Here's the 1.05 system update for Newton

[The latest Newton System Update from Apple.  --isl]

[Archived as /info-mac/nwt/sys/newton-system-105-updt.hqx; 38K]

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Date: Tue, 25 Jan 1994 17:51:06 +0100
From: [e-mail] (Adam van Gaalen PA2AGA)
Subject: [*] NET_Mac2.3.35.sea.hqx.text

                        The Netherlands, January 25, 1994.
Hello dear reader,

Today I distributed the file NET_Mac2.3.35.sea.hqx...

In this version of NET/Mac I implemented the following:

- New <dayofweek> parameter for perform command
- New: 'reboot_on_bad_date' }  These new commands were implemen-
- New: 'sourcewhendone'     }  ted to make it easier to maintain
- New: 'resetsmtpto'        }  an unattended slip-telephone-link
- Improved the generation of dynamic aliases
- Some more 'enhancements' for q-and-d AppleTalk-fix
- Some more 'enhancements' for q-and-d fix

This version obsoletes all versions of info-mac/comm/radio-netmac in the
Sumex-Aim archives.

The new NET/Mac has been uploaded to ucsd.edu, to the directory
/hamradio/packet/tcpip/incoming. If it's not there (anymore),
then look at /hamradio/packet/tcpip/mac.

Kind regards,

[Archived as /info-mac/comm/net/radio-net-mac-2335.hqx; 260K]

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Date: Mon, 6 Dec 93 21:09:16 PST
From: Steve Weyer <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] NewtTurt-11.sit.hqx

Newt 1.1
a "turtle" graphics environment:
draw patterns using gestures, buttons, and NewtonScript programs.

Keywords: learning, graphics, mathematics, programming, NewtonScript, Logo.

Shareware: see NewtNews.txt for help, examples, warnings and other info.

[Archived as /info-mac/nwt/app/newt-11.hqx; 54K]

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Date: Thu, 27 Jan 94 16:20:44 +0100
From: [e-mail] (Thomas Bridgwater)
Subject: [*] Quiet Start 1.1

Quiet Start version 1.1
This program replaces Quiet Start version 1.0
author's e-mail address: [e-mail]

Quiet Start is a system extension which will keep some Macintosh
models from making the usual chime at startup or restart. I made
it particularly for those PowerBook users who may really want to
use their computer as a laptop and may find themselves in an
environment where the chime would be disturbing to others (like
in a classroom).

[Archived as /info-mac/cfg/quiet-start-11.hqx; 6K]

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Date: Tue, 25 Jan 1994 22:16:21 -0800
From: [e-mail] (lynsa/mrhenry)
Subject: [*] The Stack O' Love

Enclosed please find The Stack O' Love, HyperCard freeware for Mystery
Science Theater 3000 fans. This is *not* repackaged text; please unpack it
and look at it before you decide not to post it. It contains information
both original and from the Internet, graphics, sounds and a video tape
cataloging feature, and has been a favorite in the alt.tv.mst3k newsgroup.
It's my first program of any kind and I am astounded at the good response
I've gotten to it. This file was binhexed using HQXer and compressed using
CompactPro.

Lynn Siprelle
known on the net as Lynsa

[Archived as /info-mac/info/nms/stack-o-love-hc.hqx; 1772K]

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Date: Thu, 27 Jan 1994 08:41:03 -0600
From: [e-mail] (Monty Hampton)
Subject: 'Informed' Anyone?

Hello netters!

I have been a long time user of Adobe's now defunct TrueForm. I think it is
one of the most useful applications I own, so I was deeply disappointed
when they dropped it. I use it for all government forms, but am now having
need for improved databasing capabilities - so I am considering purchasing
"Informed".

Anyone out there have any experience with this app? What I am looking for
is the ability to generate different report layouts using the information
contained within the form program's database. As an example - we use
TrueForm to complete the FDA's Adverse Drug Reaction forms in our hospital,
but would like to be able to generate reports using any number of fields
>From the FDA form so that we can look at monthly or quarterly summaries.
This would involve being able to create different layouts for these reports
within the forms program (pretty straight-forward in your average database
program, but not possible in the TrueForm forms manager).

Any feedback on the application 'Informed' (I believe it is by Shana),
would be greatly appreciated! TYIA!

Monty



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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 16:49:20 +0000
From: [e-mail] (Dave Edmondson)
Subject: (Q) Help with Mac TCP/IP

Hi,

I is there a terminal emulator package (either shareware or commercial)
which is MacTCP/IP aware and also allows any key to be mapped.

Please reply direct to me at the above address

Ta..

[e-mail]

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Date: Thu, 27 Jan 94 13:32:53 +0100
From: "Ad Herweijer"  <[e-mail]>
Subject: *Think Before You Zap!*

One of the FAQ's that keep coming to the Digest is how one can "zap the PRAM".
There is a choice here; (1) the Apple-supported procedure (pushing
option-command-P-R at startup) and (2) the software way (among them TechTool
and
Zap!, both of which can be found in the info-mac/cfg directory). Few people
seem
to realise, though, that the two procedures are not equivalent. The PRAM is 256
bytes of battery supported RAM, 64 of which are documented by Apple. These
contain defaults information like the startup disk and mouse/monitors
settings.
In the other 192 bytes Apple stores machine-specific information she -wrongly-
considers unimportant to us, like the manufacture-date and the total hours our
Macs have been used since that day (this information can be retrieved using
programs like MacCheck and TattleTale). Zapping the PRAM from the keyboard
leaves that information untouched, whereas the software zaps all 256 bytes. The
manufacture date is lost (it is actually reset to something like today's date)
and the runtime resets to a proud 0 hours. Unless you are considering selling
your Mac to a used car dealer, you probably don't want that to happen!

My advice: DON'T USE SOFTWARE TO ZAP THE PRAM. Just infiltrate a PC Users
Group,
get a boyfriend with big hands and ask him to push "option-command-P-R" while
you restart your Mac: the thought of 4-key combinations turns them on!

BTW: after zapping the PRAM (either way) you will find that the default monitor
settings have been reset and an eventual startup screen will show up in
monochrome. The original settings can be restored using the Monitors Control
Panel, but be aware that using the SHORTCUT offered for instance by NowMenus
(and maybe other hierarchical menu software too) DOES NOT CHANGE THE PRAM
SETTINGS! You have to go to the Control Panels Folder and open the Monitors
Control Panel from there. NowMenus' shortcut just affects the Monitors file,
not
the PRAM! (Does this answer your question of Jan 25, Arild Eugen Johansen?).


ir. Ad Herweijer
Delft University of Technology
Fac. of Applied Physics
Pattern Recognition Group
Lorentzweg 1
2628 CJ   Delft
the Netherlands
Phone: [phone]
FAX:   [phone]
E-mail:[e-mail]

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Date: 26 Jan 1994 10:01:11 +0000 (U)
From: "Dees, Ted E." <[e-mail]>
Subject: 128 Mac

Larry Jensen wrote:

>The other day I was going thru some old papers
>and I found my receipt for my first Mac.  I had forgotten
>how soon after the Mac was announced that I ordered one.

I took delivery of mine the first week of March '84; upgraded it to
a Plus when that option became available; installed 4 meg RAM in preparation
for System 7 (about a year before it actually became available); and finally
retired it last January when I bought a floor demo Mac IIsi (doing MacInTax
on a Plus was driving me crazy!).  It now sits on my bookshelf, blankly
staring while I mutter about the slowness of SimCity 2000 on the si.

If we really want to talk pioneering computing, however, who still has
their Apple II?  Mine, purchased in 1979, now sits on my brother's bookshelf
gathering dust -- while the 12" B&W TV that served as a monitor appears on the
counter in my kitchen during the football playoffs and then vanishes back into
the garage for another year.

Ted Dees ([e-mail])
Palm Harbor, FL

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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 19:59:14 EST
From: "Jeffrey N. Fritz" <[e-mail]>
Subject: 128 Mac - Did you buy one?(R)

Larry Jensen <[e-mail]> said:
LJ> It being the TENTH anniversary of the Mac I wonder how many of you
LJ> out there classify as Macintosh Pioneers? If you bought a 128 Mac
LJ> BEFORE 1 May 1984 I think that would qualify.

Does gazing in extreme desire at a Mac 128 at a Bay Area Apple dealer's
store on February 4, 1984 qualify?  I will never forget the feeling of
overwhelming desire and total frustration  I felt as I longingly
watched the new Macs in the store.  I also remember turning green with
envy when some wealth San Franciscan walked out of the dealer's with
a Mac under his arm.  I was underprivileged--I just couldn't afford the
megabucks that Steve J. wanted for his beautiful, new creation!

What can I say?  I was hooked but good!  My wallet didn't get
raided until September 1987 (eons later) when a new Mac Plus
made it's way to my home.

BTW,  I still have the Mac preview article from Byte (November or
December 1983, I think.)

Happy Birthday Mac!  :-)

Jeffrey Fritz
[e-mail]
West Virginia University

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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 13:37:41 -0800
From: [e-mail] (Andrew J. H. Spence)
Subject: Accessing audio CD

I am responding to:

>Date: Fri, 21 Jan 94 14:28:20 EST
>From: Tom Smyth <[e-mail]>
>Subject: Accessing audio CD
>
>I've installed Apple CDROM Software v.4.0.5 on a Mac LCII with an older
>AppleCD SC attached. Interactive CDs, with audio and video, work fine
>(although understandably slow); however, I cannot access a regular audio
>CD.  When it is inserted, "This is not a Macintosh disk. Do you wish to
>initialize it?" message appears.  Any suggestions? (I'm stuck with the
>drive for a while.) TIA
>
> Thomas J.C. Smyth, Ph.D.       email: [e-mail]
> School of Education              fax: [phone]
> USC-Aiken                      voice: 803-648-6851
> Aiken, South Carolina 29801

Well, here is a cruddy work-around you can use as a temporary solution:

* Install the apple menu item called Music Box

* Load Music Box

* Switch to finder

* Put audio CD in

* When finder gives you "Initialize?" dialog you hit command-option-escape

* Click the force quit button to force the finder to quit and reload, at
which
  point it will have forgotten to try and mount the CD.

* Switch to Music Box - the CD's stats should be up and you can hit play /
  whatever.

This is a pretty shabby method.  Hopefully someone else will have the
correct method.  Lates, Andy

Andrew J. H. Spence          "Beauty is in the eyes of the beer holder."

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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 94 12:45:42 -0500
From: [e-mail]
Subject: All modems are not created equal

    Sorry to hear about your poor experience with the $99 LL 14.4
modem. But as an owner of one in a very noisy (phone) area, I can say that
they preform rather well.

    When I got my first one I too had very similar problems as to what
said you experienced. Turned out that they shipped me either a bad modem
cable, or a cable that was not Hardware Handshake compatible.

    The LL's are very sensitive to the cable. I tried my old modem
cable that was on my old Avatex 2400 and it did not work even as well as
the bad cable from MacWhareHouse.

    I would also note that MacWhareHouse's shipping department leaves
a little to be desired. They shipped me out a replacement that did not
have a modem in the box (ie. empty box, yes...). Some one else told me
they sent him a PC style modem cable, but the Mac software.

    So I don't know if I would lay the blame on the LL to fast...
NOte: this is Not a flame.

Later,
    Mike    [e-mail]

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Date: Thu, 27 Jan 1994 16:17:05 CST
From: "Michael Cook, 124-211, x2792" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Apple Multi-media CD-ROM Offer

I recently received in the mail an offer for a multi-media system
>From Apple.  It includes 2 Apple speakers, an Apple CD-ROM drive
(300D ?), and 3 free CD-disks from their given list.
The whole system is $629, while supplies last.

Is this a good offer?  Is the CD-ROM drive a "good" one?

I have a Performa 475, so compatability isn't a problem (is it?).

Which free CD-disks would you choose (or avoid)?

Sorry if this has been discussed before.  I haven't seen any
discussion, and just received the offer recently.

Thanks for info,

Michael Cook
Internet: [e-mail]

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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 01:39:56 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Matt X. Herbison)
Subject: Archiving Eudora mailboxes

Howdy.  Seeing as how my Eudora mailboxes are approaching the 10MB point, I
was thinking to archive them.  Is there a program out there that does this
sort of thing easily, or should I just take them out of the Eudora Folder
and store them elsewhere?  Any suggestions, either to me or posted here,
are greatly appreciated.

-Matt X. Herbison                       -Penn State University
[e-mail]                         -Apple Student Representative

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 27 Jan 1994 14:33:56 -0500 (EST)
From: Sridar Narayanan <[e-mail]>
Subject: Big files from UNIX to Mac

Someone recently posted a note on this subject which began:

>>
So take the following steps for the file  big_mac_ftped_file.hqx :

1. uuencode the file on unix:
      uuencode big_mac_ftped_file.hqx  big_mac_ftped_file.hqx > bmfuu
   This will produce a file named bmfuu
>>

I should point out that a .hqx file is already in ASCII form, so it
can be split using a Unix editor or the split command.  Just remember
to always transfer it as text from Unix->PC->Mac to keep the
end-of-line characters straight.

Sridar

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 27 Jan 94 15:49:41 EST
From: Ken Pogran <[e-mail]>
Subject: BinHex CRC error? (Q)

What's the likely cause when BinHex 4.0 reports a CRC error in
trying to convert a file (download -> application)?  I've FTP'd
system-update-2-0-1-image.hqx from ftp.apple.com (several times,
now) and so far I've been unsuccessful at de-binhexing it, each
time getting a "CRC ($5EE6) error".  It's a pretty big file (over
950K).

I'm FTP'ing it from the apple host to my Unix host, then
accessing it via AppleShare from my Mac (or FTP'ing it to my Mac;
the end result is the same).

I know what a CRC is and what they're for.  I would think
that either the file is getting corrupted in the transfer
(uniformly each time I've tried it!) or the file is corrupted at
Apple, or there's something wrong with my trusty copy of BinHex
(but I've successfully un-binhexed other large things today).
I've tried FTP in both ASCII and IMAGE modes.

Any suggestions?

Thanks!
 Ken Pogran

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 26 Jan 94 00:37:42 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: CD 300 external - CD Bundle ripoff? (Q)

I recently acquired a CD300 External, and was rather dismayed to learn that
the many CDs that were advertised as being bundled with the drive were
missing.  In their place were two advertising CDs, and two CDs of utter
mediocrity...nothing compared to what was *supposed* to come with the player.
 I called 800-SOS-APPL, and, as usual, was given a completely wrong
statement...the Customer Service rep told me to send the player back to where
I'd bought it and request another drive.  This sounded like complete BS,
which was confirmed by both the store I'd bought the player from, and from
other users I talked to who received their CD 300s at the exact same time.
(These other users also confirmed that they received the full complement of
discs as advertised.)

So my question is this (especially to any Apple employees lurking out there
who could possibly lead me in the right direction): What can I do to get the
CDs I was *supposed* to get?  I'm have this strange feeling that I'm just
getting totally screwed on this, and I'm obviously not happy about it.

Any assistance appreciated,

--Aaron Dickey


------------------------------

Date: Thu, 27 Jan 1994 00:26:35 PST
From: [e-mail] (Kee Nethery [phone])
Subject: Cross Stitch Program (A)

>My girlfriend is looking for a cross stitch designer program.  She'd like to
be able to design a pattern in color, with little x's to just like the final
product will look, then view/print it in the pattern that cross stitch people
really use on a regular basis.  She'd also like to have it give her standard
DMC thread color numbers so she doesn't have to worry about matching colors


These people make an embroidery machine that just whips through a design.
Is cross stiich the same thing? If so, here's how to contact them.

SofTeam USA Inc.
baltimore MD 21211
410-243-1130
fax [phone]
Embroidery Software and hardware
signmaking equipment

Kee Nethery

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 10:15:10 +0000
From: [e-mail] (Ab de Haan)
Subject: cscw-groupware

Hello,
Within some weeks I'm going to give a course on CSCW. I'de like to be
informed on applications concerning this subject running on an Apple
infra-structure. Who can help me to this information ???? Furthermore I'm
interested in starting something like a newsgroup on this subject. Who
joins.

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 27 Jan 1994 08:15:16 -0800 (PST)
From: John Thoo <[e-mail]>
Subject: DeskPict replacement (Q)

I recently discovered that DeskPict (freeware for displaying a Desktop
picture) is not 32-bit clean.  Could someone please recommend a FREE,
32-bit clean replacement for DeskPict that is just as convenient to use?
Thanks.

--John.
J. B. THOO, Math Dept, Univ of California, Davis <[e-mail]>

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 00:02:02 -0600
From: (Pete Chane) <[e-mail]>
Subject: Finder's Find command

Is there any way to modify the Finder's Find command so it avoids searching
the Preferences folder?  I hate it when I want to find an app and it finds
its preferences first.

PC.

PETER CHANE
[e-mail]
[e-mail]
University of Wisconsin-Madison, 1994 Rose Bowl Champions.

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 26 Jan 94 10:07:24 EST
From: [e-mail] (B. Ling)
Subject: High Speed Modems (Q)

It seems like there have been a lot of praises and condemnations of the
LineLink modem (MacWarehouse), but from what I've seen, there are several
other modems out there that are at least as good (advertised, anyway) that
are only $50 more. O.K.... so that's 50% more, but are there any other
_consistent_ modem recommendations out there? Murph Sewall
<[e-mail]> had some good coments in IM #15, it would be nice
to see more comments like that for those of us thinking about such a purchase.

B.C. Ling
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 27 Jan 94 08:23:50 PST
From: [e-mail] (Michael Brodsky)
Subject: How do I fetch from home?

In my office I have an Ethernetworked Mac runing MacTCP where I can happily
fetch, gopher, xferit, and read my news from the Internet.  I have Apple Remote
Access 1.0, from which I can connect with my Duo from home.

Here are the questions:

1. In simple language, how can I set it up so that I can use Fetch, New Reader,
Gopher, etc. _from_home_?

2. Can I use ARA, or do I need Tinbuktu, or SlIP?

3. How do I configure MacTCP, the same as my office machine?

4. Am I missing something else obvious?

Thank you all for your help.  -Michael

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 13:47:12 -0600
From: Paul M Sheldon <[e-mail]>
Subject: Hubble deep sky image gif's

    HST Faint Object Camera has a gopher site for HST deep sky images!
    There are txt and gif suffixes. I can read the gopher comments before
I download and decide whether I want one for a background screen. Here's
the sci.astro.hubble newsgroup post:
 ---
[e-mail]                 Chris O'dea at Space Telescope Science
Institute
Images from the Faint Object Camera plus Corrective Optics Space
Telescope Axial Replacement are now awailable on STEIS in gif
format in the directory stsci/epa/gif and are called FOC* .
You can access STEIS in the following ways.
anonymous ftp:
ftp stsci.edu
anonymous
[e-mail]
cd stsci/epa/gif
gopher:
gopher stsci.edu 70
WWW:
http://stsci.edu/top.html
--
Chris O'Dea    Space Telescope Science Institute

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 12:44:05 -0600
From: Paul M Sheldon <[e-mail]>
Subject: hubble wide field planetary camera gif's

    Anonymous ftp site for this beautiful widefield gif's archive is :
ftp pubinfo.jpl.nasa.gov
cd images
and look for wfpc...gif

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 27 Jan 1994 00:25:56 PST
From: [e-mail] (Kee Nethery [phone])
Subject: Hypercard->Toolbook (A)

>I thought there was a program to convert between Hypercard and
Toolbook(for Windows).I even thought that I could find it on info-mac.
and that it was called "Convertit"



distributed by:
Heizer Software
1941 Oak Park Blvd., Suite 30
Pleasant Hill Ca 94523
voice [phone]
fax [phone]
internet:remote-printer.Heizer_Software@2.8.8.6.3.4.9.0.1.5.1.tpc.int

Kee Nethery

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 04:23:00 -0800 (PST)
From: "Jay H. Nerenberg" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Hyperdisaster

> I have a question for those hypercard experts.  A person in my graduate
> class decided to use the protect command on her stack.  When we access
> the stack now the best we can do is browse, we can't even reset the user
> level. We get a limited menu bar, that will not allow anything more than
> browse.  The stack is not locked in the get info box.  What happened?
> Thanx in advance to all your replies.
And how do we get back in there so we can edit the program?
> Signed,
>
> The Bafflemeister
>                                 Jay Nerenberg
>                        Internet Address: [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 27 Jan 1994 08:54:09 -0600
From: [e-mail] (Gib Henry)
Subject: INIT icon running off screen

In Info-Mac Digest #11, Jim Powlesland <[e-mail]> wrote:

>I have so many extensions, etc. that the icons form two rows
>across the bottom of the screen. The problem is that the bottom
>row icons run right off the screen before continuing on the top
>row. What is causing this? And, how can I fix it?


I used to use IconWrap 1.2 (latest version I can find) to control the
display of startup icons, but under System 7, it doesn't seem to make much
difference.  Some icons overlay others, and some appear to run off the
right side of the screen.

Does anyone know of a newer version of IconWrap, or a newer fix to this
problem?


--
--Gib Henry
Mac Duo 230/MacTCP/SLIP

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 27 Jan 1994 00:26:01 PST
From: [e-mail] (Kee Nethery [phone])
Subject: internet fax service (C)

I've been using the internet fax service and I really like it. Basically
you enter the fax number in reverse as an internet address and if there is
a fax node that supports that exchange, it faxes it. If not you get a
bounce.

For gruesome details send mail to:
[e-mail].

A typical address looks like this:
remote-printer.time_in_the_SF_Bay_Area/phone_number_spells_popcorn@6.7.6.2.7
.6.7.0.1.5.1.tpc.int

Figured you all might want to know about this. It's great for adding
non-computer users to distribution lists.  :-)

Kee Nethery

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 09:58:41 -0600 (CST)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Keeping time on Quadra 610

I have a new Quadra 610, and it seems that the clock is always running fast.  I
have reset it several times, only for it to be "fast" by about 2-3 minutes just
24 hours later.  Has anyone else noticed a similar problem?  Any ideas on what
can be done about something like this?  Thanks for the help.

Steve Waechter
swaechter@utmem1 (bitnet)
[e-mail] (internet)

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 27 Jan 94 18:13:37 PST
From: Tim D. Castle <[e-mail]>
Subject: LaserWriter Select 360 on serial

Does anyone know what it takes to connect a LaserWriter Select 360
to a Mac on a serial connection? I assume the proper cable, which
should be a DIN-8 to RS-232, null modem cable, like the old Mac II
to ImageWriter I cable. But what printer software should be used?
It's PostScript printer, so you'd want something that produced
PostScript, but that talked over a serial connection.

Any ideas?

Tim Castle       [e-mail]
End-User Computing, GTE Gov't Systems, Mountain View, CA

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 27 Jan 94 07:35:33 CST
From: [e-mail] (Linda Beatty PAWA Library 827916)
Subject: Looking for Mac STEAM TABLES

Hello,

We are seeking thermodynamic tables for water and steam in SI
(metric units).
It is preferable for these tables to be suitable for a
Macinstosh computer.
Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

Linda Beatty.
E-Mail - [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 28 Jan 1994 00:57:04 -500 (EST)
From: Colin Hunter <[e-mail]>
Subject: Mac286 & HDFD - Help? (R)

[e-mail] (Monty Hampton) writes:

> I have an old style Mac286 card from Orange Micro (the kind that had 2
> cards and took up 2 slots). Haven't had much need for it lately, but
> recently saw and purchased a Mutual Fund database that was DOS based and
> shipped only on 3.5" HD disks. Well, I hadn't needed to load anything onto
> the C-Drive of my Mac in ages, and sure enough - I can't get anything from
> my HDFD to load into the C or D drive of the Mac286.
>
> Does anyone know of anyway I can access the HDFD from within Mac286 without
> the hardware upgrade?? I would really hate to spend so much money just to
> use a single $25 DOS applicaton. (BTW - the compressed INSTALL.EXE file is
> larger than the low density 5.25" disks read by my current DOS drive).

I don't know whether you can use DOS mounter or any of the other
DOS-format disk readers to get HDFD files into your Mac286, but
why don't you bypass the drive problem altogether and just use
your old 360K 5.25" drive.  I know you said that the INSTALL.EXE
file is too big to fit on a single low density disk, but there
is a DOS shareware app called "CROSS.EXE" that will split any
file into small chunks over as many disks as you need.  Just
copy these into your C: drive, unCROSS them back into a single
file and install into Mac286.

Colin Hunter
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 26 Jan 94 13:54:03 GMT
From: Mr Gordon S Byron <[e-mail]>
Subject: macron problem>Japanese

    I have someone in Japanese who wants to generate oberbars aka
macrons
this is  line  above all vowels for the romanisation of Japanese fro a
Dictionary. Using WorldSript for Jappanese. She can't get this
character to print out. She's using English input mode and wants a one
bit character. This font must be capable of being used by a type
setter/Image setter? for bromides
can anybody offer advice/help
thanks in anticipation
gordon

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 27 Jan 94 19:37:05 +0100
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Mashed icon a la Novell?

Hello fellow netters!

I have a problem with the Mac icons on our Novell 3.11 server (running
NetWare/Mac 3.0 - the good people at Novell haven't offered us in
Sweden any upgrade path but the 3.12 package). Being an educational
institution we of course have to keep our programs on a server to save
them from unofficial testing...

My problem: the icons are all mashed up and you cannot see what they
are supposed to look like. Your double click is as prone to hit empty
air as an active pixel. My users are understandably somewhat miffed.

I have heard that this is a known problem - but with no known solution
Can the collective mind of the net give any hint on how to handle this
- please??

:)   Hans-Ulrik

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 8 - 8 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Hans-Ulrik Karlen, Systems Manager      [e-mail]
Dept of Informatics, Lund University    Sweden

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 27 Jan 1994 00:25:44 PST
From: [e-mail] (Kee Nethery [phone])
Subject: medical software (A)

>I am interested in getting some information about educational software that
is primarily intended for medical studies.

...

>I would like to know what is available for IBM-PC & clones and Macintosh.
Included in this would be tutorials, graphical teaching material and
preferably software that comes on CD's.

There is a software package for MD's learning acupuncture. It runs on a Mac
and the Windows version is due out any day now. I believe it is part of the
course materials of an acupuncture class.

It is called Acupunture Energetics (same name as the course). It has a
reference section covering each acupuncture point and it has quite a few of
the point selection methods built into it. No idea of the actual cost, but
it is above $600 US Dollars.

For details contact:
Dr. Joseph Helms
2520 Milvia
Berkeley, California
USA

voice [phone]
fax [phone]

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 27 Jan 94 08:02:22 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Christopher L. Ursich)
Subject: Memory problems on a PowerBook Duo 230 -- Help Help!

I recently "upgraded" my Duo 230 from 4 megabytes of RAM
to 24 megabytes.  I figured my problems with memory were over--
WRONG!  In order to access the memory, I have to turn
on 32-bit addressing, no?  I think this is wreaking havoc
with my applications.  When I run certain applications, my
whole Mac just freezes.  Forcing a Quit doesn't usually help,
and I wind up having to manually turn off the power.
The programs which I can remember crashing are:

*Eudora 1.4.1 when trying to download Info-Mac digest
*WriteNow 3.0 when just trying to load the application
*Hungry Frog Ion Eaters after I type in my name.  I get
    a few system beeps also, but I can't see what
    they are saying.
*Speedometer 3.23 when loading
*MacCheck 1.0.5 (written by Apple!) when loading. (I think
    I have fixed this problem with some new file 1.0.5a1
    or something like that.)
*System Errors 7.0.1 when loading.

On the other hand, Mathematica and others run marvellously.
Eudora only crashed when it tried to inhale a message as
huge as IFMD.  I am fairly certain that there are no
physical problems with the RAM chips themselves--I tested
them both with Walking Zeros and Walking Ones tests.
I purchased the chips from Chip Merchant (the cheapest)
and the chips are manufactured by Hitachi.

Is this an instance of programs being "non 32-bit clean"?
I don't know what that means, but it seems to fit here.
Is there anything I can do to solve or even diagnose
the problem?

Thank you once again,

Chris
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 26 Jan 94 19:31:37 EST
From: Richard Caccavale <[e-mail]>
Subject: MIDI Format

I would like to paoe a queation to those of you who are experienced with.
Midi format.  As you may already know, Project Gutenberg has added a MIDI
file of Beethoven's fifth to their collection of free "texts."  There will
be more.  These files are binaries that are supposed to be able to be
played with any MIDI program, but that means DOS MIDI.  I don't have a MIDI,
but I have a 660 AV and would like to utilize these files.  Will a Mac MIDI
play them?  If not, is there any way to convert them.  Please respond to
me directly and I will summarize for this list and for the Project Gutenberg
list.  Thank you in advance.

Richard Caccavale [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 25 Jan 94 22:06:53 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Steve Portigal)
Subject: more BeHierarchic question

I've read already that this is a commercial version, and am aware that any
downloaded copy is quite illegal. Before I was made aware of this, however,
I installed it, and found that all of a sudden there were Gatekeeper
warnings from System Heap trying to modify the system. I'm wondering if this
is particular to this BeHierarchic OR if I have a virus someplace else. If
someone who knows abou tthis could mail me, I'd appreciate knowing.

Steve

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 27 Jan 1994 23:39:56 -0500 (EST)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Nutritional Software ?

Has anyone heard of a program which contains nutritional
information about individual foods?  I would like to use such a program
in connection with the establishment of a strict
nutritional regimen for someone with a heart problem.
Any help and/or hints as to where to find such
a program would be greatly appreciated.
EDHOLZER

------------------------------

Date: 26 Jan 1994 15:00:31 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Stan Kerr)
Subject: Other mirrors for Sumex?

Is there another mirror for the Sumex collection? I recall seeing a
mention of a new one several weeks ago, but stupidly forgot to copy
it down. Sumex is essentially unusable from here; I've been unable
to get in for months. The wuarchive folks just had a disaster and are
still recovering files.
--
-----
Stan Kerr <[e-mail]>  Phone:[phone]  Fax:[phone]
Computing & Communications Services Office, U of Illinois/Urbana

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 25 Jan 1994 22:15:38 -0800
From: [e-mail] (Jon Pugh)
Subject: Ouchie (AOCE) ain't all bad?

Well, I installed System 7 Pro and all things considered, it wasn't as evil
as I might have thought it was going to be.  Some of it's damn useful.

What I don't like is the AppleMail program.  First off, there's no way to
get to it from the mailbox, unless you've got mail, I guess.  I don't have
any mail.  Not in there.  Mine's on the Internet at home and QuickMail at
work.  I don't have a PowerTalk gateway.  I feel small and insignificant.

Then there's the AppleMail program itself.  It seems slow.  Painfully slow.
I'm on a Q800 here, fer cryin' out load.  I just timed it.  2.5 seconds to
pull down the File menu.  It's instantaneous here in Eudora.  Go figger.

Let's ignore the mail.  Maybe I'll never get any there.  ;)

PowerTalk has some very nice networking features though, and I think this
is where it shows promise.  First off, they've given us a Catalogs icon on
the desktop.  This holds a hierarchical windowed icon view of the network,
just like the Finder does for disks.  In fact, it looks like the Finder
because of the PowerTalk extension to the Finder.  Another Finder extension
is the Scriptable Finder, which is sold seperately on the AppleScript 1.1
Development CD (and worth the money if you want to script the Finder, more
on this in another article). PowerTalk extends (or replaces) the Alias
Manager and adds the ability to create aliases of network entities, like
servers.

We have a server here at Storm Technology, where I'm now working (as if you
were keeping track) which has a pair of CD ROM drives on it.  We are always
swapping CDs in and out, so it doesn't do any good to make an alias to the
server, since you never would have the right one in (because you can't see
what CDs are in without dragging the Chooser and a bunch of clicking or
typing into this).  Now you can just make an alias to the server!  Just
open up the network windows until you get to the server's parent.  Make an
alias (it appears on the desktop).  Now double click that and you enter
your password (well sometimes; more about the keychain later) and see all
the volumes on that server (including whichever CDs are mounted).  Very
nice.  Now you are only 2 double clicks from any arbitrary shared drive on
the net.  I made an alias of our zone too.  It has all the servers listed.
Lots faster than the Chooser, but just as scriptable. In other words,
there's no scriptability in PowerTalk.

So, I mentioned the keychain.  It holds your passwords.  PowerTalk bundles
them all under your meta-password and uses them for you.  When you enter a
password PowerTalk asks you if you want to save it in your keychain.  For
some reason, the default is No.  I would have thought the other way more
common.  Ah well.  The cool thing is that you see the file sharing dialogs
a lot less often.  You retype your meta-password after each boot and then
just double-click on an alias to access your servers.  It has even
remembered the password to my PowerBook overnight.  Granted, that's not the
most secure thing, but physical security is more important at work.
Nevertheless, PowerTalk can deal with that.  There's an option to lock your
keychain after N minutes, so you won't leave it unlocked all the time.  I
don't use it.

Then there's the Personal Catalog.  It's part of mail.  I don't really use
it.  I added my wife into it, and put a cute picture of the baby in here
card, but otherwise, it's a snooze without someone to talk to.  We're
entrenched in QuickMail at work and I just don't see the need for
AppleMail.  Someone who's been there and done that needs to explain the
cool things it does.  I know there are people out there who believe that
Ouchie, er, PowerTalk has simplified their lives.  Speak up.

Another part of PowerTalk that I haven't played with is the digital
signature stuff.  I haven't gotten a signature and don't know anyone who
has.    How does this procedure work.  Has anyone gotten one?  What's
involved?

I think the Drag Manager can be thrown in here, but it's simply some
additional visual feedback and manipulation that isn't really used by
anything except AppleMail, and we know how I'm doing on that.  As more
draggable stuff gets out it'll get cooler.

PowerTalk comes with 5 (!) extensions, AppleTalk Service, Catalogs
Extension, Mailbox Extension, PowerTalk Extension and PowerTalk Manager,
and a control panel, PowerTalk Setup.  That doesn't count the AppleMail app
and the digital signature stuff.

So, I installed PowerTalk because I'm too stupid to know better, but I
haven't died yet.  The keychain and the aliases are nice, but I just feel
like it's a little bigger than just all that.  ;)  What do you folks think?

Jon

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Date: Thu, 27 Jan 94 11:03:16 EST
From: [e-mail] (Catherine Rey)
Subject: PackIt III v1.3

I've been looking for the application PackIt for a long
time.  Found it this morning at ftp.cso.uiuc.edu in
/mac/MUG/Utilities2.0.sit.hqx.  Can't get it to work,
though.  It either crashes my machine, tells me "bad F-line
instruction", or I get an error of "type 1".


Anyone else using PackIt?  Any suggestions?

Catherine Rey
[e-mail]

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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 94 12:53 GMT0
From: Pindar Infotek Ltd <[e-mail]>
Subject: Patch editor/librarian for

>From Pindar user Ian McCall

Subject: _Patch editor/librarian for the Roland D-20?
Hello.

Is there a public domain or shareware patch editor for the Roland
D-20 keyboard around anywhere? I'd also be interested in hearing
about commercial software, but only if it's inexpensive.

Additionally, does anyone know the format of a Roland disk? I'd like
to be able to copy MIDI files directly on to it.


Cheers,
       Ian



---
Please make 'Attn:<space>Ian McCall' the first line of your reply
(not the subject) to ensure automatic forwarding to the correct
Pindar user.

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Date: Thu, 27 Jan 1994 22:19:18 -0700 (MST)
From: Todd Kennedy <[e-mail]>
Subject: Patch for Incredible Machine

A friend of mine has EVEN More Incredible Machine
for her VX.  However, it doesn't work.  Is there
a patch available?

Also looking for a patch for Leisure Suit Larry
I think it's version 5.  Anyone heard of it?

thanks
todd

[e-mail]

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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 13:18:30 +0100 (WET)
From: "Mauro Straulino, ext 244 (bp 19)" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Personnel Management software (Q)

I am interested in getting some information about Personnel Mngt
and/or Humane Resource software.

I would like to know what is available for Macintosh.

If anyone has any information please answer by email.

Thanks in advance

Mauro Straulino
[e-mail]

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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 09:31:35 PST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: PowerPC 94 obsolete?

>From what I have been reading in papers particularly about the PREP spec and
how Apple will ignore that at least for the 94 products, and that the survival
of the product or at least getting those PC users to switch to apple relies
heavily on Insigna solutions $499 product to emulate a 286 environment... all
of that make me wonder that Apple always manage to make their product obsolete
before they hit the market.  It has been almost a year of waiting for the
PowerPC now are they asking to wait another year?

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Date: 26 Jan 1994 09:14:59 -0800
From: "Van Saun, Mark" <Van_Saun#m#[e-mail]>
Subject: requesting the MACS application

The MACS application representative,

I have the-MACS application version-10b4 and it won't let me use it any more
(possibly due to it being out of date?).  Would you please send me the latest
version or tell me where I can obtain it?  Thank you.

- Mark Van Saun, Apple Sacramento

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Date: Thu, 27 Jan 1994 15:07:26 +0100
From: Francisco-Xavieri <[e-mail]>
Subject: Search an shell for the mac

Good morning.

My name is JEAN Francois-Xavier, i am a french boy, and i studying in Nice
(France).
My english isn't very good..

I am searching an shell for my macintosh (LC 4/40 upgrade with an 68030/68882
33 Mhz) like ksh or zsh with some unix commands.
I don't really want an UNIX operating system, but only an shell with
ls,more,grep,... for work my unix's project of final year.

You server is the best than i know, and it's for this reason which i am send an
Email to you.

i hope an answer.


             Sincerement votre F-Xavier.
               ^
               |
 --------------------- |
it's an french expression...

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Date: 27 Jan 94 09:15:00 CST
From: "Mike Sisson  " <[e-mail]>
Subject: Shut Down Programs (Q)

Greetings-

I am looking for an application(preferably)/cp/extension that will shut down
the mac after a user specified period of inactivity. It should also be able
to answer the "Do you want to save" dialog boxes that appear when an
application is shut down with unsaved work. I have looked at Shutdown Items,
ShutDown Later and Shutdowner and none of them seem to have a way to act
based on user activity level. I have also looked at DarkShutDown which works
with DarkSide of the Mac. It has an option to shutdown a certain amount of time
after a fade which I could use but using this fader keeps me from using all of
the other way cool faders. (I know-- Make a decision which is more important
to me, faders or autoshutdown. Darn it, this is a Mac and I shouldn't have to
make those decisions!!!) Anyway, does anyone know of a beastie which fits the
requirements outlined above? Freeware, shareware or commercial, preferably in
that order.

Thanks,
Mike
[e-mail]

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Date: Thu, 27 Jan 94 11:16:24
From: [e-mail]
Subject: SUBSCRIBE

I've tried to subscribe via LISTSERV@RICEVM1, but I get the mailed kicked back
saying it's a wrong address.  Is that a complete address, or do I have to add a
suffix of some kind?

Thanks!



Eric

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Date: Thu, 27 Jan 1994 08:01:58 -0800 (PST)
From: John Thoo <[e-mail]>
Subject: systems crashes on PB165c (help!)

I'm forwarding an e-mail I received from a friend re her PB165c.  Her
PB's been crashing a lot, lately, and I'm not sure how to help.  If you
have any suggestions at all, please e-mail her, Betsy Cochran, directly
at <[e-mail]>.  Thanks much for your help.

--John.
J. B. THOO, Math Dept, Univ of California, Davis <[e-mail]>

 --------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 21:45:13 -0600 (CST)
From:[e-mail]
To: [e-mail]
Subject: systems crashes and forwarded messages

Hi John!
    I hope Carole didn't bug you too much about my mini-disasters.  I've
tried many things and my local Mac guru has tried a few more and I'm still
having problems.
    Here's the setup:  A PB165c with 14 Mb RAM and internal fax modem
(both Apple, installed by an Apple service rep).  THe machine was new in
September and had the latest system release (7.1).  Most of the software
is the newest upgrade available (Excel, StatView, VersaTerm Pro, MacWrite Pro
MacDraw Pro).  All software checks out as system 7.1 compatible.  Last week's
Virex shows nothing.  Norton Utilities shows nothing.  Disk First Aid shows
nothing.  (The Quick TIme extension did start hanging up yesterday so the
system wouldn't boot--I got rid of it since I don't use it.)  I have rebuilt
the desktop several times.  Problems recur (maybe not so often, but it's
hard to say) with all extensions off.  Of course, the modem won't work with
the extentions off.
    What kind of problems?  First, STatView and Excel began to quit
unexpectedly.  The StatView problem seemed to occur with probability 1, but
not following any set pattern of keystrokes.  On different occassions it
gave different system error messages.  Next, VersaTerm began to hang, sometimes
on loading (after establishing a connection with the Vax, it would fail to
open), sometimes when printing, and sometimes when closing.  If you force
quit, the Finder would hang up and you had to restart manually.  MacWrite
began to hang up when spell checking or printing.  Who knows what will
happen next?
    Virtual memory is off.  I almost never have more than the FInder and
one application open at a time.  I have reinstalled each of the programs
that hang up.  I was trying to avoid reinstalling my system because the
backup disks that came with my machine claim to have an older version of
the system than is currently on my machine.  While searching for weird
things yesterday I noticed that the date on my system suitcase has been
reset to last Monday (Martine Luther King Day).  I did use the machine that
day, but I don't recall doing anything to my system.  (This is why I first
suspected a virus--but the problems began before then.)
    So, have you heard of any such thing?  Is there any easy way to
determine why my system suitcase has this date?  Is it safe to replace it?
Do I have to call Apple?
    Any and all advice is warmly welcomed.
                Thanks,
                    Betsy

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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 17:28:45 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Bill Barnett-Interdepartmental Labs)
Subject: TCP/IP<->Appletalk Routing (Q)

We are looking for a router to hook a network of about 30 Macs
(workstations, file servers, printers - star config. locally) running
appletalk over ethernet into our TCP/IP ethernet backbone (all copper for
now, no fiber).  Our TCP/IP network has a single communications server that
runs DNS and our Internet connection and delivers mail mostly through POP3d
to Macs and PCs around the Museum (Eudora, of course!).  Our appletalk
network uses QuickMail (v.2.6-Online Mail Server mode) for internal mail,
but only 5 machines on the appletalk side really need to access the greater
network and the Internet.  As these Macs transmit a lot of graphics, we
need to keep all their appletalk packets off our TCP/IP network and still
allow connectivity to those who need it. They might also like to run Novell
NLMs and access Novell servers on the other side (ultimately).

    Erego, we are looking at routers to perform this function;
    specifically:
-Compatible Systems RISC Router 3000E
-Shiva FastPath 5
-Cayman Systems GatorBox EX
-Others???

    Questions:
1-Has anyone else out there set up this kind of system and have any
suggestions?
2-Can anyone provide recommendations for the above or other routers?
3-Can these routers be configured to provide the network
isolation/connectivity we need?
4-Can a QuickMail server route mail to a unix server and visa versa?  If
not can a POP3 server be set up on the Mac mail server?  Are there other
products that can route appletalk type mail to TCP/IP and out to the
Internet?

Any replies/responses/recommendations would be greatly appreciated!

-Bill Barnett <[e-mail]> American Museum of Natural History

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Date: 26 Jan 1994 07:43:36 -0500 (CDT)
From: Dwight Lemke at Wisconsin Oshkosh <[e-mail]>
Subject: TCP/IP on an LC

Christofer said:

>Obviously we can't get an ethernet card into the LC

Why not?  I have an Asante ether card in my office Mac and have a direct
TCP/IP link to the VAX. I use Eudora, Turbogopher and Mosaic on that LC.

-Dwight

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Date: Fri, 28 Jan 1994 13:44:12 +1030
From: Simon Hackett <[e-mail]>
Subject: TCP/IP on an LC

In comp.sys.mac.digest you write:

>Does anyone know if you can run TCP/IP based applications such as Mosaic
>and/or Fetch on an LC
>using Apple Talk?  Obviously we can't get an ethernet card into the LC. I
>see that MAC/TCP gives the selection of local talk on the LC rather than
>the ethertalk selction on other Mac's with an ethernet card.

Chris,

You're mistaken. You *can* put an Ethernet card into an LC. I run an LC
and an LC-II here and they both have ethernet cards in them. Works fine.
You just need to buy an LC or LC-II specfic ethernet card, either from
Apple or from a third party hardware vendor like Asante'.

Simon Hackett
[e-mail]

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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 14:46:36 +0200
From: [e-mail] (Dr. Michael S. Silverstein)
Subject: TIFF, PICT, EPS

We are trying to work with scanned B&W (greyscale) micrographs and prepare
them for presenation on transparencies. I have some BASIC questions
regarding TIFF, PICT and EPS formats.

What is the difference between the formats?
Which is best for greyscale?

We can work with photoshop, freehand, and/or canvas. A file scanned in TIFF
format of 1MB, adjusted in photoshop remains 1MB (still TIFF), when saved
as a freehand document becomes 100KB.

Where did the other 900KB go?
Will the lost information affect the quality of the print-out?

We are currently working with a LaserWriter IIG, but a dye sublimation
printer may be in the cards....

Thanks in advance for the enlightenment...


Michael Silverstein
Materials Engineering
Technion

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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 94 10:37:25 GMT
From: "G.C.Q.Birch" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Time travel

[e-mail] (Larry Jensen) writes
> Subject: Required Reading for Info-Macers
>
> For those of you who have bought or used your first
> Macintosh in the last five years, you might find
> reading an article in the IEEE Spectrum of Dec. 1984
> titled "Design case history: Apple's Macintosh" by
> Fred Guterl ...

An interesting problem in time travel? *8-)

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Date: Fri, 28 Jan 1994 1:50:50 +1300 (NZDT)
From: [e-mail] (GLEN HAWKINS)
Subject: Type and creator archives

Howdy to all.....

Is there a program or file list that gives the types and creators of
programs and then tells you what the original program was?

I can use FileBuddy or file typer to get the type and creator of files but
then some codes confuse me as there is very little obvious answers in a set
of 4 letter codes.

If there is not one available I would be interested in starting one if I
have co-operation from programmers that can be posted periodically and may
be useful to people in my predicament.

Thanks for your help and if there is no file, could you start sending the
type and creator files to "[e-mail]". I'll need type creator
program_name.

Cheers Glen

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Date: 27 Jan 1994 13:47:53 +1100
From: [e-mail] (Keith Marshall)
Subject: Wanted: a single A3 ribbon for a QMS ColorScript 100 30i printer

I need a single A3 ribbon for a QMS ColorScript 100 30i printer
(I'm too poor to buy a new set).
I'm happy to pay for postage to Australia as there aren't many
QMS ColorScripts here.

My email address is [e-mail]

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Date: 27 Jan 1994 22:30:16 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Scott Schoenfeld)
Subject: What will the power-pc do to the laptop market

Help - I would like to purchase a laptop - specifically I've decided to
purchase a mac Powerbook 180 4/120.  I have chosen it because I like
the active greyscale display (the largest display mac makes in the
Powerbooks), the speed, and the port and expansion slot configuration.
The reason I am now hesitating is that I have heard about the aledged
power-PC to come out soon and was wondering if someone could share some
info with me about the implications that this may have one my purchase.
Here are the questions that I have.

1) Will there be a mac (I want to stick with mac because of all the
   software that I have)  power-pc configuration similar to the
   Powerbook 180 - ie. active grey scale display, can handle external
   monitor, modem, printer, etc..

2) Will the Powerbook line of laptops change signifigantly ?  If so
   how ?

3) How much $$$ will the above described Power-pc cost and what
   will (quantitatively) happen to the cost of the Powerbook that
   I want to purchase.


Thank you in advance,
Scott

Please post responce or email me as [e-mail]

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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 94 21:14:49 CST
From: Akira <[e-mail]>
Subject: Wrapping an image

I have a question for ya.  I have a scanned in TIFF image that I wish to
wrap around an eps image of a coffee cup.  Ant suggestions on how I should
go about it?

Akira

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Date: Thu, 27 Jan 94 07:45:22 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Christopher L. Ursich)
Subject: Zapping PRAM

I wanted to thank all the people who responded to my
question about zapping PRAM.  I tried every key combination
EXCEPT CMD-OPT-P-R because I thought CMD-OPT would rebuild
the desktop, and I didn't want to do that.

Thanks go to [e-mail] (Michael Bradshaw)
and also others who responded on info-mac itself.
(I lost track of all of the names.)  Thanks to
all.

Chris
[e-mail]

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